Doomsday bunkers emergency food supply's and escaping the city, will we all survive?

  I have read many blogs and forums that people write on self-reliance and being prepared for an emergency event. Some, not all by any means, are deeply ingrained in the theory that when the inevitable collapse of our society takes place it will inspire people to attack one another. Attack one another why, well because I have what "they" want, supposedly they want my water, food and supplies and "they" are all bent and sent to get it any way they are able. My idea of what will happen does not exist in that reality, I have too much faith in the human race, there is something about catastrophes that brings out the best in most people. I believe as with most things in life that 1% of any organization causes 99% of the problems, so are the people blogging about being under siege in a dream world or is it most likely to occur.

Entry to a "bunker", almost looks like an old style sod house. 

  Some people have well-equipped cabins or get away's in some area far away in the middle of nowhere. Some are located in such a remote area, a map may read: follow the main highway for 100 miles, take an exit that is a dirt road, drive down it for another 100 miles then on to a logging road down a cow path, up a tree, and into a knothole. No one is going to find some of these places, but these guys are dedicated and true believers that a complete collapse is inevitable. Maybe it is, I don't think so but we are all entitled to our own beliefs. For a group of people to hunt these very secluded bunkers, it would take a lot of dedication and they will have to be very desperate, not to mention they would have to have some idea of where they are going. I think the families in the

It may be like this after we run out of gasoline.

bunkers will be OK, no one will attack them. Another issue is if a family holes up alone their chances of survival are bleak, especially if there is trouble. Human beings security is in groups, a band of 25 individuals is an optimal number for a settlement, it would be 12 adults and 13 kids. All farmers, all with separate skills. The most important task these groups would have will be to provide food for the first winter. In Montana when the homestead act first was enacted most of the homesteaders did not make it through the first winter, due to a lack of food. In order to raise enough to survive, it will take people that know how to grow crops. A lot of crops, for each person 1/4 acre of potatoes per person will have to be grown to make it through 6 months, then plant again. People with the know how to raise root crops, beets, turnips, sweet potatoes, and onions will be needed. They will have to know crop rotation, natural plowing methods to reduce erosion, watering amounts, and perhaps most importantly crop rotation. There will not be enough room in a city to grow enough food to feed a family so one of these bunkers would be the way to go as far as food is concerned and if the people know how to grow it. I may be naive but I don't recall ever hearing a historical account of how invaders took over a working farm in the middle of the growing season, just to have the crop fail because the intruders had no idea of what they were in for. Without a successful crop, everyone would starve over the winter, The bunker will have to be a working farm with real farmers, not soldiers.
  I live close to a major city, 50 miles from San Francisco on a delta island, we have a daughter in the city. Ours is an isolated place, people have a hard time believing California isn't just all Hollywood, we aren't and most people in Northern California mostly like Southern California for the best beaches. We live in the middle of nowhere, at the end of the road, and we are as self-reliant as we are able to be. To continue the above situation where our society collapses, where I live will present a much different reality, one of which I believe many share. As it continues some people believe the city will empty out and we will be engulfed with thousands of people, well maybe not. Of course, I have other ideas on that, I really don't believe anyone will be going anywhere. I'm staying home, we are prepared and we can supply a few more people for a very limited time, water and a dried bread crust maybe but it's something. If there is a collapse, let's imagine what may take place, this is a

Hello!? OK, yes, I should be there in about 3 days, don't worry I'm alright. 

different kind of city, (did I have to mention that even?) Some people in the city will want to get out of Dodge, remember 1% at least will make an attempt. That's about 86,481 packing up and taking off, the population of San Francisco is 864,816 as of 2015. We now have a large number of people on three freeways, highway 101 north (Golden Gate Bridge), highway 580 over the Bay Bridge and 101 south to San Jose through South San Francisco. Have you ever driven these roads in the best of times? They are at certain times of the day a parking lot. Now the escape, major earthquake 86,000 people jump in their cars and immediately get jammed up, it takes two cars to completely jam up either bridge. The Bay Bridge is a double-decker so lane crossing is impossible, the Golden Gate could open 4 lanes out, however, what would the emergency responders do, how would they get into town? Road rage, accidents, and breakdowns would most likely stop everyone after the first 2,000-3,000 cars get through signaling the exit is over, then we have thousands of people on the freeway walking to.......Oakland? Where in the world would these people be heading to in the first place? The silver lining in all of this is that one thing the bay area is good at is responding to disasters, there have been plenty of them here as well. I think very few people will make it out of town, maybe the ferry's would run but again where in the heck would people go? They are much much better off gathering supplies to survive for at least six months, it would be every bit as intense as the bunker survivors but in a very different way, a very crowded different way.
  Meanwhile, on our little island with all of our eccentric people and animals, none of us are going anywhere, we would be more concerned with who's coming to dinner. The houses on the dead-end road I live on, (on an island all roads are dead ends, they all end at the water.) the houses are on one side of the road, small homesteads and ranches occupy the center. We lose our utilities all of the time, fallen trees, high winds and the like take their toll, in a major earthquake it would not be much different. I don't think any residents here would even think of leaving, we have one two-lane bridge out, but we can get far away in boats. We know all of our neighbors, most are here only on weekends of the seven houses in a row next to me, two have people during the week. The chances of a major

Islands flood too.

event happening with everyone here is remote. We will go on with life, changing very little, as long as we have supplies. Some way to purify water, dehydrated food, and lighting, basic stuff, holed up in the house. Again 1/3 of us are prepared, 1/3 are "kind of" prepared and the remaining 1/3 have no interest and figure they will get by somehow. (Some of my grandsons come to mind, of course, they think I'm nuts.) OK so now we are faced with an event that looks like it may last a while, what will us on the island do? I see us banding together and creating some sort of a barter system, one advantage is we mostly all know each other. Between the family gardens, the ranchers and the small farmers would probably form 25 member groups as mentioned above, would we make it through? Food and farming are in the forefront again, the goal would be to make it through the first winter. I wonder if people would work if there was plenty of food, or wait until the food was gone then decide to plant a garden. Farmers are the answer I wouldn't want to risk it without farmers, ranchers, and people willing to work at it.
  Most emergency situations last for about 3 days, I am more comfortable with a 7 day supply of emergency food, water, and shelter. I do not have one years supply of food on hand, we do have a week's worth, however, that's fairly easy to do. After starting a supply I have found it to start to enter my lifestyle and it kind of takes a life on of its own. By adding to the supplies slowly, from several different stores and suppliers we can keep the cost under control. By far preparation is the best route to take, purchase a pre-assembled kit or construct your own, you can buy a kit and as most people do add to it. More importantly is to have a pre-established emergency plan, in as complete of detail as possible. Be certain to have a contact number out of the area for the family members to call and check in with on a regular basis.
  I suspect we will never be totally on our own for a very long length of time, a week most likely a month less likely but still very much a likely hood, longer than a month we will be in the middle of a major disaster, that's where our long-term planning comes in. A very good paper on disaster planning.
  Just a few thoughts on survival, there is a lot of information and opinions about this scenario, all very much speculation. It boils down to how much we trust our government to provide basic food supplies, water, and safety, the closer we live to a city the more important those services will become. The people in the bunker, 100% dependent on themselves, the people in the city, 100% dependent on outside resources and the people in the semi-rural 50% dependent on the government and 50% dependence on themselves.
  It makes sense to me, every event is different, a flood different than a fire or an earthquake, we will be faced with a lot of unknowns. Thanks for reading, maybe I got you to thinking about this a little bit, it just may become a lifestyle change for you.

jacquesandkate  emergencykitsplus.com